The catch of CO2 alarmism is that CO2 as an atmospheric trace gas is claimed to have considerable impact on global temperature as a "greenhouse gas", by IPCC estimated to 3-5 C warming upon doubling of the concentration from 0.03% in preindustrial time, with today 0.04%. It is also claimed that this reflects a near saturation (logarithmic) effect of CO2 with additional warming from another doubling being very small. The catch is then that CO2 as a greenhouse gas of very small concentration is claimed to have a big effect up to 0.03% as a very substantial part of an estimated total atmospheric effect of +33 C, but much smaller effect above 0.03% by saturation.
Now, a physical system for which a small cause can have a big effect is an unstable system and as such cannot persist over time. This is like steering your car with a very small joystick sensible to every little shake of your hand. You do not get far with such a control mechanism.
So, if global temperature is largely controlled by CO2 as a trace gas as a very small cause, the Earth faces the possibility of a "runaway greenhouse effect" with huge warming upon doubled CO2. But this is not what we see when observing less than 1 C warming with CO2 raising 0.01% from preindustrial level. The proposed explanation is saturation of the warming effect of CO2 as a greenhouse gas, which then must have been reached already today.
But there is another more natural explanation of the little observed warming from increased CO2, namely that CO2 as trace gas has no (observable) influence on global temperature at all. This is like removing the control function of steering your car from the sensitive joystick to a conventional steering wheel. You can then let your kids play with the joystick as much as they want under an illusion that they steer the car.
This connects to a principle of homeopathy of dilution where the concentration of a substance supposed to be beneficial can be reduced to only a trace while keeping/improving the effect. You can then be a believer, or you can as a non-believer say that the substance has no beneficial effect whatsoever independent of dose.
The catch of CO2 alarmism is thus to claim a big effect from a small cause without runaway effect and then eliminate the possibility that the small cause de facto has only a small effect. This dilemma has not been resolved.
The big effect of CO2 as trace gas is claimed to be demonstrated by its blocking effect (causing warming) on Outgoing Longwave Radiation OLR as the big ditch in the radiation intensity spectrum around frequency 600 as reported by AIRS spectrometers in satellites with the green curve representing OLR from an atmosphere without CO2 as presented by William Happer (time 25.00) (see also article):
The effect of doubling CO2 is represented by a slight broadening of the ditch in red upon doubling as a small effect by saturation. The ditch in OLR causing global warming is thus presented as a big effect up to 0.03% and a small effect upon doubling, as discussed above with connection to homeopathy.
But there is a catch in the above spectrum, since what AIRS de facto measures is the temperature of atmospheric CO2 at the highest level where it can be detected (220 K at the tropopause), which is possible even at trace concentrations, but what is reported is radiation intensity from Planck's Law as if CO2 as a trace gas is blocking considerable amount of radiation. The above diagram is presented as the main evidence that CO2 as trace gas causes considerable global warming, but then without runaway effect. But the diagram can be questioned since it reports something which is not directly measured. Maybe a true OLR has no ditch and so no (observable) warming from CO2. Maybe the spectrometer acts as a ghost detector like that detecting Downwelling Long Wave Radiation DLWR discussed in this post. What do you think?
Happer is a skeptic claiming little warming from doubled CO2 as the slight broadening of the ditch. But Happer seems to believe in its present big effect represented by the green curve without ditch. It would be interesting to hear what Happer says about the possibility that the diagram is the result of ghost detection, and so I have asked him and am waiting for response.
PS1 The fact that an AIRS spectrometer directly measures temperatures and not radiation intensity (like a pyrgeometer) is supported by the fact that it contains both coolers and radiators at 150 K and 190 K. Also recall this post.
PS2 Communication with Will Happer: (see invitation to TNT Radio)
Claes:
Does a pyrgeometer directly record temperature or radiation intensity?
Will:
RADIATION INTENSITY AND TEMPERATURE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. PYROMETERS MEASURE RADIATION INTENSITY (OR FLUX), NOT TEMPERATURE. IN EARTH'S ATMOSPHERF RADIATION IS SELDOM EVEN CLOSE TO A THERMAL EQUILIBIUM STATE (THE PLANCK STATE) WHICH CAN BE DESCRIBED BY A TEMPERATURE. THE CLOSEST THING TO THIS SITUATION IS THE INTERIOR OF OPTICALLY THICK CLOUDS AT NIGHT, WHEN SHORT MEAN FREE PATHS FOR THERMAL RADIATION AND THE ABSENCE OF SUNLIGHT PRODUCE NEAR EQUILIBRIUM THERMAL RADIATION AT THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LOCAL CLOUD PARTICULATES.
Claes:
Thanks for response, which I much appreciate. We are both (CO2 alarmism) skeptics and so a main question can be what arguments are best to debunk CO2 alarmism. You seem to say that a pyrgeometer directly measures radiation flux and not temperature, whereas I have the opposite impression.
Let us seek an answer by looking into the design of a pyrgeometer, which consists of (1) a thermopile reading/measuring voltage U scaling with end temperature difference dT, (2) a silicon dome/window and (3) temperature sensor measuring the temperature T_dome of the dome. The source temperature T_source can then (after calibration) be determined as T_source = T_dome + dT. Again, what is de facto measured is (1) voltage U scaling with dT and (3) thermopile temperature.
There is, as far as I understand, no sensor measuring incoming radiation flux into the dome. Incoming radiation is calculated by postulating outgoing radiation according to Planck-Stefan-Boltzmann of magnitude sigma T_dome^4, but this is a fictional quantity as if the dome is in radiative contact with outer space at 0 K but in fact is in radiative contact with a source of higher temperature.
A. Can we agree that what de facto is measured is (1) thermopile voltage scaling with end temperature difference and (3) dome temperature?
B. Can we agree that there is no sensor directly measuring incoming radiation?
C. You compute a climate sensitivity (without feedback) of about 1 C, about the same as that presented by CO2 alarmists. Is that a complication for a skeptic? Would it help us if climate sensitivity could be estimated to be less than 0.1 C?
Hope you can sort out A-C for me.
Will:
If I have understood you correctly, I don't agree with what you say about temperature and intensity or flux measurements. But I don't have time for extensive correspondence on this topic. Spectral intensity measurements are often expressed as equivalent temperatures. But the basic measurement is of energy fluxes which produce voltages or currents in sensor elements. I attach a paper that describes one such instrument. If you are not already familiar with how high-resolution spectrometers work, it would be worth your time to study the paper. A black-body calibrating source is needed to convert intensity (voltage) measurements to equivalent temperature.
Temperature is both obvious from our sensations of hot and cold, and at the same time profoundly subtle from a thermodynamic point of view. Here it is intimately associated with the idea of systems in thermal equilibrium, and with the abstract concept of entropy. The most fundamental definition of the temperature of a body in thermal equilibrium is the rate of change of its internal energy with entropy, under conditions that no work is done. This definition is usually too abstract to be of much use.
Ideal Planck radiation has a temperature and has the maximum possible entropy for radiation of a fixed total energy. But it is unusual to find real Planck radiation in nature. Besides having the Planck distribution of intensity over frequency, the radiation must also be completely isotropic. Sunlight can be roughly isotropic inside an optically thick terrestrial cloud, but the spectral intensity is orders of magnitude too weak for the sunlight to be in thermal equilibrium. Except in the interior of optically thick clouds, Earth's thermal radiation is highly anisotropic, and it usually does not have a Planck spectral distribution because of the complicated absorption spectra of greenhouse gases. But cloud particulates are pretty good grey bodies with no sharp spectral features. The particulates absorb, emit and scatter much more powerfully that greenhouse gases. So multiple scattering, emission and absorption of thermal radiation inside optically thick, isothermal clouds can produce radiation which is close to the Planck limit for the temperature of the particulates in the cloud.
Claes:
Thanks for response! I think you can settle the following issues quickly understanding that your time is limited.
1. It seems we agree that what a pyrgeometer de facto by its design measures, is temperature. Is this your opinion?
2. The instrument you refer to uses bolometers which according to definition are sensitive thermometers whose electrical resistance varies with temperature. Can we then agree that bolometers de facto by design measures temperature?
3. You say that "Spectral intensity measurements are often expressed as equivalent temperatures”. Yes, there is a connection between the temperature of a (black/grey) body and the radiative transfer/flux of heat (or in short radiation) from the body, but it depends on the temperature of the surrounding of the body and thus cannot be concluded from temperature alone. Can we agree on that?
4. A bit more precise: The idea that a body at temperature T radiates according to Planck’s law with radiative flux scaling with T^4 independent of the surrounding/background temperature, is a misinterpretation of Planck’s Law, which in correct form states that the radiation scales with (T^4 - T_b^4) with T_b the background temperature. Can we agree on this?
Will: