tisdag 16 december 2025

A Thought Experiment with RealQM

RealQM is a new form of Quantum Mechanics QM based on non-overlapping electron charge densities in 3d physical space, to be compared with textbook StdQM based on multi-dimensional wave functions over $3N$-dimensional configuration space for a system with $N$ electrons.

I gave chatGPT gives the following prompt:

  • Suppose RealQM represents a physically correct model of QM.

chatGPT:

✅ 1. Quantum mechanics as we know it would not be fundamental

If RealQM were literally correct:

  • no Hilbert space

  • no operators

  • no wave-particle duality

  • no probabilistic Born postulate

  • no intrinsic randomness

  • no entanglement as defined in standard QM

  • no nonlocality

Quantum mechanics would become an emergent or approximate theory, not fundamental.

This would be the biggest revision of physics since 1926.


✅ 2. Spin and fermionic statistics would need a classical explanation

RealQM uses a scalar PDE on ℝ³.
But in modern physics:

  • electrons require spinor fields

  • antisymmetry comes from fermionic statistics

  • stability of matter relies on Pauli exclusion

If RealQM truly explained atoms with a scalar PDE, then:

  • spin would have to be a geometric or boundary-condition effect

  • Pauli exclusion would need a classical continuum mechanism

  • the Dyson–Lieb stability theorems would have classical analogs

This would radically change modern atomic theory.


✅ 3. Quantum field theory would cease to be fundamental

If all matter can be described by a 3D classical PDE:

  • no need for quantized electromagnetic fields

  • no photons as field excitations

  • no creation/annihilation operators

  • no vacuum fluctuations

  • no Lamb shift or Casimir effect from QED

  • no renormalization theory

You would have to re-derive:

  • blackbody radiation

  • spontaneous emission

  • scattering cross-sections

  • high-energy processes

all from a classical PDE.

That radically rewrites quantum electrodynamics, particle physics, and even cosmology.


❗ 4. Bell inequalities, EPR correlations, and quantum nonlocality become impossible

A 3D deterministic PDE is a local, classical, context-free theory unless supplemented with nonlocal terms.

But real experiments violate Bell inequalities.

So if RealQM is exact:

  • either the experiments are misinterpreted,

  • or the PDE includes hidden nonlocal structure,

  • or measurement theory is fundamentally classical and contextual.

Any way you choose, this would overturn 60 years of quantum foundations.


❗ 5. Multi-electron atoms cannot be in 3D unless the PDE encodes antisymmetry

Hydrogen works in 3D because it has one electron.

But for N electrons:

  • the wavefunction must live on ℝ³ᴺ

  • antisymmetry under exchange is essential

  • no 3D scalar PDE is known to reproduce multi-electron spectra, shells, or chemical bonding

To match real atoms, RealQM would have to:

  • generate shell structure,

  • produce correct periodic table ordering,

  • reproduce Hartree–Fock and post-HF correlation corrections,

  • generate Pauli exclusion from a classical PDE.

If it did, chemistry as we know it would be reinterpreted in classical continuum terms.

This is a monumental consequence.


⭐ 6. If RealQM works, modern physics is not “wrong,” but “emergent”

RealQM would not contradict quantum mechanics but underlie it, in the same way:

  • Navier–Stokes underlies turbulence

  • kinetic theory underlies thermodynamics

The standard Schrödinger equation would be like a derived or averaged equation.

QM would be a statistical shadow of a deeper classical PDE.

This is the “subquantum mechanics” dream.


⭐ SUMMARY OF CONSEQUENCES IF RealQM IS ACTUALLY TRUE**

  1. Quantum mechanics becomes an emergent statistical theory.

  2. No fundamental Hilbert space; no operators; no probabilistic axiom.

  3. Spin, Pauli exclusion, and chemical structure get classical PDE explanations.

  4. Quantum field theory collapses as a fundamental framework.

  5. Nonlocality, entanglement, and Bell-violation experiments require reinterpretation.

  6. All of atomic, molecular, and solid-state physics must be rebuilt on classical PDEs.

  7. Particle creation/annihilation, photons, vacuum fluctuations, etc. are reinterpreted.

This would be the most radical shift in physics since quantum mechanics itself.


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