In a recent sequence of post we are exploring Newton's theory of gravitation based on Poisson's equation:
- $\rho (x,t)=\Delta\phi (x,t)$ for all $(x,t)$,
The idea is to view the connection $\rho =\Delta\phi$ as an expression of "perfect harmony", instead of viewing matter with mass density $\rho$ as the cause and the gravitational force $\nabla\phi$ as the effect in a cause-effect relation. Or with $\phi$ the cause and $\rho =\Delta\phi$ the effect created by the local process of differentiation, without any action at distance.
Newton's equation $\Delta\phi =\rho$ is nothing but Einstein's equation in flat Minkowski space-time, which appears to be the space-time we are living in, assuming infinite speed of propagation of light or gravitational effects.
Viewing 1 as a cause-effect relation with matter the cause and gravitational force as the effect, Einstein's equation emerges as a generalization of Newton's equation from infinite to finite speed of propagation of the gravitational force.
On the other hand, if we do not view $\rho =\Delta\phi$ this way, then the question of speed of propagation of gravitational effects does not arise, and so the motivation to generalize Newton's equation into Einstein's equation suddenly disappears. General relativity would then be cut off from the tree of science under Ockham's Razor.
No evidence of finite speed of propagation of gravitational force has been found despite serious efforts in the LIGO project to detect associated postulated "ripples in curved space-time". The search now continues in the Advanced LIGO project from the zero result of LIGO. The hope is that increasing the sensitivity by a factor 100, it will be possible to detect some miniscule gravitational effect from a massive gigantic galactic collision of supernovas or black holes. This amounts to detecting a smallest possible effect of a biggest possible cause, which has become the trade-mark of modern super-collider experimental physics, described in the Aesop fable about the mountain that gave birth to a mouse:
But if no evidence can found indicating that it is matter which generates gravitational potential/force, irrespective of infinite or finite speed of propagation, then we will have to give up this idea at least if we decide to follow the device of Richard Feynman:
Regularizing the relation $\rho =\Delta\phi$ by adding terms depending on derivatives of $\phi$ can bring out different cause-effect relations depending on the regularization. For example, the wave equation
$\Delta\phi =\rho$ with $c=\infty$. Experimental measurement of speed of propagation of gravity are inconclusive but there is some evidence pointing to a speed larger than the speed of light.
It may be that all we need to know about gravitation is expressed in the relation $\rho =\Delta\phi$, while the true physics behind the relation is hidden to us, because we cannot see the gravitational potential itself, because it does not emit/reflect light, yet is there as a "dark source" of the gravitational force we can feel.
Of course, discussing this possibility with a physicist will lead nowhere, because even if gravitational waves or ripples in space-time can never be detected, they must exist because Einstein said so (but did not believe himself), or if he did not say so he must have meant so (he suffered from senility already in early middle-age, as we all know...). This is one of the reasons for the deep crisis of physics today, driving physicist into increasing absurdities away from rationality and reality.
No evidence of finite speed of propagation of gravitational force has been found despite serious efforts in the LIGO project to detect associated postulated "ripples in curved space-time". The search now continues in the Advanced LIGO project from the zero result of LIGO. The hope is that increasing the sensitivity by a factor 100, it will be possible to detect some miniscule gravitational effect from a massive gigantic galactic collision of supernovas or black holes. This amounts to detecting a smallest possible effect of a biggest possible cause, which has become the trade-mark of modern super-collider experimental physics, described in the Aesop fable about the mountain that gave birth to a mouse:
But if no evidence can found indicating that it is matter which generates gravitational potential/force, irrespective of infinite or finite speed of propagation, then we will have to give up this idea at least if we decide to follow the device of Richard Feynman:
- If the fact will not fit the theory---let the theory go.
Regularizing the relation $\rho =\Delta\phi$ by adding terms depending on derivatives of $\phi$ can bring out different cause-effect relations depending on the regularization. For example, the wave equation
- $- \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial^2\phi}{\partial t^2}+\Delta\phi = \rho$,
$\Delta\phi =\rho$ with $c=\infty$. Experimental measurement of speed of propagation of gravity are inconclusive but there is some evidence pointing to a speed larger than the speed of light.
It may be that all we need to know about gravitation is expressed in the relation $\rho =\Delta\phi$, while the true physics behind the relation is hidden to us, because we cannot see the gravitational potential itself, because it does not emit/reflect light, yet is there as a "dark source" of the gravitational force we can feel.
Of course, discussing this possibility with a physicist will lead nowhere, because even if gravitational waves or ripples in space-time can never be detected, they must exist because Einstein said so (but did not believe himself), or if he did not say so he must have meant so (he suffered from senility already in early middle-age, as we all know...). This is one of the reasons for the deep crisis of physics today, driving physicist into increasing absurdities away from rationality and reality.
Can you calculate the correct precession of the perihelion of Mercury, without ad hoc insertions, with that theory?
SvaraRaderaYes, computations are on the way.
SvaraRaderaInteresting. Do you also have capability to do predictions, with your theory, relating to the Gravity Probe B experiment?
SvaraRaderaPhys. Rev. Lett. 106, 221101 (2011)
http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v106/i22/e221101
Was just looking back through the book "Dark Matter, missing Planets & New Comets" by Dr Tom Van Flandern" On p45 (in the chapter "The "Instantaneous" Action of Gravity) he states "The absence of an observed orbital acceleration of the Earth about the Sun places a lower limit to the speed of propagation of hypothetical gravitational agents between Sun and Earth. This lower limit is about 8 times the speed of light." He gives other situations where the minimum is very much higher (one "the speed of gravity exceeds the 10^10 times the speed of light")
SvaraRaderaRe Mercury, Van Flandern writes a number of pages about Mercury (including calculations of orbits) and suggests that Mercury could have been a satellite (or moon) of Venus.
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