tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post6577761998719840094..comments2024-03-24T09:28:42.755+01:00Comments on CJ on Mathematics and Science: True-SB or False-SB by Experiment?Claes Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-90750513020738608132011-10-18T18:58:05.329+02:002011-10-18T18:58:05.329+02:00May be my exposition isn’t formally rigorous but t...May be my exposition isn’t formally rigorous but the EM power vector is a complex quantity that adjusts its active and reactive components according to environment boundary conditions. So, the power is continuously transferred & stored by the electric & magnetic fields and the transfer is only one way. <br />MicheleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-63219984876754123012011-10-18T13:17:59.354+02:002011-10-18T13:17:59.354+02:00This is handwaving and probably incorrect.This is handwaving and probably incorrect.Claes Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-52963573689572915322011-10-18T11:59:53.964+02:002011-10-18T11:59:53.964+02:00As far I know the effect of the EM waves can be th...As far I know the effect of the EM waves can be thought as it is due to two counter propagating waves that both transfer useful power (heat) and store on the place reactive power, point by point. The resultant effect is that only one wave travels in one way, or no wave travels. <br />MicheleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-92165648963566887502011-10-18T10:49:58.182+02:002011-10-18T10:49:58.182+02:00No it is not so simple. EM wave propagation is two...No it is not so simple. EM wave propagation is two-way, heat transfer only one-way but not by your banal argument, I think.Claes Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-79366526970074277762011-10-18T08:31:51.603+02:002011-10-18T08:31:51.603+02:00I think we must go back to the causes rather than ...I think we must go back to the causes rather than to argue about the effects.<br />The EM energy flow is due to the cross product of the electric and magnetic fields (Poynting vector). So, if it is possible that there exist two opposite Poynting vectors, then there exist also two opposite electric fields and two opposite magnetic fields. But that contradicts the univocity of the vectorial fields. That’s, at any point there exist only one field intensity, i.e., only one electric field and only one magnetic field; <b>then there exists only one Poynting vector, the local net energy flux.</b><br /><b>It is so banally simple!!!!!</b> <br />MicheleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-4265724399868409922011-10-16T22:11:56.973+02:002011-10-16T22:11:56.973+02:00Telescopes magnify signals, but the surface of the...Telescopes magnify signals, but the surface of the earth is not under magnifying glass.Claes Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-36896277725471973382011-10-16T21:12:41.851+02:002011-10-16T21:12:41.851+02:00The Stefan-Boltzmann law is totally irrelevant to ...The Stefan-Boltzmann law is totally irrelevant to the direct measurement of radiation from the atmosphere. Infrared-sensitive materials placed at the focuses of telescopes detect it directly. Only a moron would claim otherwise. Are you a moron, or are you just explaining yourself badly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-88771226047091495872011-10-16T20:42:34.692+02:002011-10-16T20:42:34.692+02:00I have said many times that what is measured is no...I have said many times that what is measured is not DLR, but net heat transfer and from net heat transfer temperature is computed and from temperature DLR is computed using SB. DLR is not measure directly, because it is impossible to directly measure something non-existent.<br />Do you understand what I am saying?Claes Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-74616570771998654332011-10-16T20:18:13.556+02:002011-10-16T20:18:13.556+02:00Why don't you answer these direct questions?Why don't you answer these direct questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-69229038813188691342011-10-15T17:00:15.410+02:002011-10-15T17:00:15.410+02:00Do you actually understand that people detect and ...Do you actually understand that people detect and measure radiation from the atmosphere, every day, all around the world? Do you seriously claim that this radiation doesn't exist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-66137913135923738212011-10-15T16:50:46.457+02:002011-10-15T16:50:46.457+02:00you're claiming that a source at T_S lower tha...you're claiming that a source at T_S lower than the background's temperature is not radiating. that should be easy to check and would be a revolutionary results. that would also an experiment testing what you call true-SB against false-SB.lorenzpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-73683816719879879752011-10-15T16:08:48.702+02:002011-10-15T16:08:48.702+02:00The question is if an experiment can be set up whi...The question is if an experiment can be set up which directly records a difference between True-SB and False-SB. If not, then False-SB is the same as True-SB and then False-SB can be left out from the discussion altogether, because it has no function. So what is then the experiment recording a difference?Claes Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07411413338950388898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-4119172182531034452011-10-15T15:29:11.406+02:002011-10-15T15:29:11.406+02:00i do not really see how it would be very difficult...i do not really see how it would be very difficult to check whether or not an object at temperature T_S lower than the background temperature T_B does in fact radiate or not. if you'd spend all the time you're wasting in looking for nerdy cartoons, new age analogies and ridiculous bar-conversation-type remarks on swedish culture and pc-mafia, in designing an experiment and talking to some people at your lab, you could by now have won the nobel prize and saved the world from the climate hysteria (if you're right) or moved on to doing something more useful (if you're wrong).lorenzonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1500584444083499721.post-83678376637354436642011-10-15T12:54:45.840+02:002011-10-15T12:54:45.840+02:00Direct observations made all around the world ever...Direct observations made all around the world every day destroy your argument completely and utterly. Your denial of those observations is frankly retarded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com